and whose side you're on and the fight for greater america. that does it for me. thank for watching. now to my colleague, alex witt. >> that puts a smile on my face. good morning. good morning to you. it is 9:00 a.m. in the east. 6:00 a.m. out west. here's what's happening. >> we march, we fight, we roar. >> welcome to the revolution. >> we will continue to fight. until we put a stop to gun violence in america. >> it is the day after from sea to shining sea, the call to end gun violence. west wing shuffle. one person congressman publicly worrying about the president's, quote, impulse control. i'm talk to him about the consequences. tick, tick, tick, just a matter of hours for now when stormy

daniels spills all. will anything change for the president who so far seems immune to the scandal? john bolton, joins me on whether this brings us closer to war with iran or north korea. the president firing off a series of tweets harping on the russia probe. quote, i'm very happy with my existing legal team. besideses, there was no collusion except by hillary clinton and the dems. one thing he's not commenting on, in tonight's much anticipated "60 minutes" interview. can good morning to you. what should we expect from this interview? >> reporter: there are more questions than answers but the countdown has begun to one of the most anticipated interviews in the intersection of pop culture in terms of television,

politics and the unknown of what this could mean for the president. we understand anderson cooper has already completed the interview with stormy daniels. cbs has had possession of that. that will run tonight. the agreement stormy daniels hadded by michael cohen and by extension the president, wouldle not allow cbs to air the interview. the nondisclosure agreement she had in this case, if we can call it that, would not affect the media outlets. that's part of why the interview was able to be taped and broadcast as scheduled tonight. the president's been up early, tweeting, but he has not been talking about this big tv interview. >> a storm will roll in tonight. >> i'm not 100% sure on why you're doing this. >> presumably to spill her secrets about the president. stormy daniels, the nation's most talked about adult film

actress will break her contractually obligated silence on tv. a lawyer who has made the rounds on tv himself teased tonight's appearance on twitter suggesting that dvd contains proof of an affair daniels claims she had with donald trump in 2006. that he denies. >> they better be very, very careful after sunday night relating to what they say about my client and what spin or lies they attempt to tell the american people. >> less than two weeks before the election, daniels was paid $130,000 by trump lower michael cohn to keep quiet. cohn said it was his own money. daniels sued to break that contract. >> was she threatened physical harm? >> yes. >> the president took action saying daniels is violating the terms and could be liable for

$20 million in damages. >> you do or don't have a nonslows you'reno nondisclosure agreement -- ifth which do you have a nondisclosure agreement? >> do i? >> if the payment to daniels is deemed a benefit to the trump campaign. >> if it's a contribution, then there are lots of legal problems with it. it comes from a corporation, which cannot contribute to a campaign. if the money comes from michael cohn and not the corporation, it's way in excess any amount of money any individual can contribute to a campaign. >> reporter: so, one of the potential arguments is if the president, when he was businessman donald trump, actually engaged in a number of nondisclosure agreements himself or through an attorney like michael cohn. if that had had a bunch of times, there would be an argument it wasn't a benefit to

the campaign if that was a practice he used in business. that's part of the issues that might be legally trublg for the president or his circle offal insiders. it's not clear yet because the facts aren't fully know and the circumstances would matter. the president has been here in florida for the weekend with the first led, their son barron, who turned 12 just a few days ago. the president will head back to washington himself this afternoon and based on the scheduling as we understand it, he should be back to the white house in time to see this interview if he has any intention to tune in and, who knows, maybe comment, maybe not. he's been quiet about stormy daniels for a long time. >> he has. kelly o'donnell from west palm beach, thank you. joining me, eugene scott and erin, good morning.

eugene, i want to get to something your washington post said was talk to stormy daniels ahead of tonight's broadcast. what is she saying and is she prepared for everything that is to come? >> she said in that article that she actually is prepared. she's been in the entertainment business for years and has been used to international attention. in is a completely different level of attention and take completely different space she's used to separating in. granted, though, this is not the first time we've seen this type of overlap in terms of these types of scandals and politics. so, it appears that her team is taking note of what went well in the past with individuals in her position and what went poorly and trying her absolute best to make sure she is not treated unfairly. >> daniels' attorney tweeted and

made a couple of clear points here. note, not all of our evidence will be mentioned/displayed tonight. that would be foolish. we're not sure what cbs will include but we know a lot of the full interview will have to be cut because of the time allowed. tonight is not the end but the beginning. this kind of drip, drip, drip strategy, what do you make of its efficacy. >> it's ginning up excitement. a lot of people will be tuning in. it's not only a story about an affair the president allegedly had, it's a story about the trump inner circle and any efforts they may have taken to silence this woman coming forward. there's also an issue of potential violations of campaign finance law. this is playing out on so many different fronts, publicly and legally. that's what the white house is up against after that interview airs tonight. >> to kelly o'donnell's point,

she talked about the circumstances, erin, and the fact is, if this is par for the course for donald trump, had he entered into a number of nondisclosure agreements throughout the years it would be, well, this is how he does business. but how much does that play into putting a spotlight on stormy daniels in that this may be a unique situation for him? >> it's not the first allegation that's come forward about this president. more than a dozen women have come forward to allege sexual impropriety but it's a different moment in america as well. we saw the women's march come up in 2017 and february 2018. we've seen the me too movement sweep through hollywood and capitol hill. americans tolerance for this behavior has gone down. not only the interpersonality problem for the president but also a publicity problem and

retain voters. >> eugene, you recall that cryptic message from the attorney showing a dvd. we don't know what's on the dvd, but how do you are interpret all this? what's the message there? >> the message is they are prepared, they are ent afraid of pushing back from trump and his team and perhaps they have a plan they believe will be effective in revealing their story and not a plan that will allow them to be dismissed and pushed under the table. i think one concern from this team, as erin mentioned, this is not the first allegation that has come against this president and quite frankly, most have not gotten this type of attention. i think what they want to say is this is different. they don't want to walk away from this situation with their reputation and their story b buried but they want their story

heard. >> i'll have you come back and talk about everything that happened in washington. the march for our lives rally yesterday. let's get to the call to end gun violence after more than a million people nation wood took to the streets on saturday. let's go to kerry sanders, joining me from washington, d.c. good morning to you. you were all over that march yesterday in the crowds. what was it like? >> actually quite energetic. think about this, five weeks, three days after the tragedy at stoneman douglas, student survivors from parkland joined survivors from across the country. many people i spoke to were surprised at the huge stuturnou. not only here in washington but across the country. >> a gathering unlike any other in washington. zoom i'm amazed i cannot see the end of this crowd here in d.c. today. >> the so-called mass shooting generation inspiring 800,000 to

rally down pennsylvania avenue. and from the nation's capital -- >> welcome to the revolution. >> reporter: -- to parkland, florida, to los angeles, to billings, montana, and 800 other locations across the world, teens, rich, poor, black, white, hispanic, sharing a tragic bond, a real fear they could be shot and killed. naomi watt, only 11 years old. >> i recognize -- >> reporter: the placards tell the message, a demand for new gun laws, even gun owners who staunchly defend the second amendment, saying some weapons are not needed. >> we need to take the ar-15 off the streets. >> reporter: ariana grande raised 15 miles from parkland was here.

>> it's about the other side. >> reporter: as was 25-year-old miley cyrus, galvanizing the rally with "rise up". ♪ i rise up i rise with the day ♪ >> reporter: with captivating words from martin luther king's granddaughter. >> i have a dream that enough is enough. >> reporter: to powerful 26 minutes the time it took a gunman to slaughter 17 at stoneman douglas. >> we will get rid of these and we will save lives. >> reporter: the kids gathered here say they recognize the it will keeping the pressure on requires pressure at the ballot box. to that end they were preregistering and registering students who gather here yesterday. if the entire graduating class of this high school were to

register to vote that would be 3.6 million kids on the polls able to vote in the next upcoming election. the question is, however, first, whether they'll register. second of all, traditionally kids don't vote even if they do register but the stoneman douglas kids say that is now going to change. >> i agree with you, it does people different. we loved seeing you among the crowd throughout the day. kerry sanders, thank you for that. let's bring our panel back in new. is there a sense of change, erin, in d.c. or even the sense that if this pressure continues, it will lead to change or a cynic might suggest, it's too much of an expectation. >> let's set the goalpost. when i talk to students and organizers, some of whom are adults, they laid out what they want to see. they want to see universal background checks and assault

weapons ban. we cover the white house. we know there's no political appetite to put legislation that strong on the table right now. instead, we don't see expansion for background checks. we see enforcement of existing law. that's the tolerance for this kind of legislation in this congress. but the students tell me they're not looking for a rapid change. they want to be a force. they want to be a counterforce to the nra. they want to bring young people to the polls in droves. over the course of years, change the tenor of this debate in washington. if that's their goal and if this is the amount of enthusiasm they can put behind that initiative, it looks like they're off to a very strong start. >> right. they also want to hit corporate america in their wallets. eugene, i want to play some of the more touching moments during this washington rally. let's take a listen to that. >> my name riwanda king, granddaughter of martin luther

king and kcoretta scott king. my grandfather had a dream that his four little children will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the consonent of their character. i have a dream that enough is enough. >> the poise of that young girl. and for organizers to pull off that kind of appearance, the granddaughter of dr. king, does that sort of snapshot move any legislators? >> well, it certainly moves some legislators who are, perhaps, on the bubble and not used to listening to young people when thinking about ntheir constitu e constituents but we're talking about a group going up against the nra, an electoral system that privileges incumbents, a history of voting and tradition that more likely includes older

voters, people more conservative on gun rights issues. these lawmakers are people who hope to replace the current lawmakers are listening to these voices as much as if not more than lawmakers. when people trying to assess whether change will happen that i think erin alluded to, people aren't expecting gradual change by the end of the year. student activists have been on the ground, addressing gun issues way before parkland, way before ferguson. >> these kids are going to use their voices and their votes. it's going to be interesting to see what happens in november, for sure, on this front. erin, eugene, good to see you. thank you. march for our lives, the next step. a mother who lost her son at sandy hook and attended yesterday's rally in washington will join us with her thoughts.

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the day after the march for our lives, the real work for gun reform begins for the activists while more than a million marched across this city, congress remains whether congress will take any action to stop gun violence. joining me is nicole hawkly who lost her son at sandy hook and also the co-founder of sandy hook promise. welcome back to it the broadcast. i'm curious.

i know you were at the march yesterday. what was your experience and what are your expectations now for where this goes? >> my experience, like so many other people, very exhausted but exhilarating day. the speeches were amazing. the students, their voices and call to action were exceptional. there were so many people there. i couldn't even get near the stage. i was five blocks away and we could not move for the entire session. it was just phenomenal. i was so proud to be there. >> i'm sure you were. after the shooting at sandy hook, so many people, myself included, thought there would be gun reform. the innocence shattered. you see a march on this scale. do you expect, do you think meaningful change will come from it? >> i absolutely do think change will come from it. what this shows is how many people want to see change and demanding change. back when sandy hook happened five years ago, we didn't have these kind of numbers and we didn't have this second

generation, this younger generation making their voices heard as well. in is different now. it's the students leading it. and there are millions of people who are saying, congress, we need you to do things. there are things we can do in our community. there's also a lot we need to do at a state and federal level. the congressmen need to start listening to us now. >> with regard to sandy hook promise, which you co-founded, were you involved in the march yesterday? and how might you be able to build off this momentum? >> we had a lot of people there. our supporters, our base. we had a donor provide scholarships to bring in some of our save clubs and presenters. we had hundreds of people there and in the sibling marches around the world. we weren't involved in the background. this was really the students leading this. there were funding but the students set the agenda yesterday and i think what they delivered was exceptional. >> you mentioned the sister marches. i want to take a listen to what megan bonner had to say

yesterday at new york city in the march. >> this will never leave me. it's been over a month and i still can't wrap my head around what happened that day. there's so much more that could have been done to prevent this. i want to see change. i don't want to feel unsafe in school anymore. i want to see change. >> when you hear something like that, nicole, from a survivor, the fact she doesn't understand what happened and she's never going to be able to get away from this, what do you think? >> i think all of the students have a long journey ahead of them. my son, jake, has a long journey ahead of him. he's only 13 now. the fact they're calling on action, that will help them find paths forward. that's important. because no one wants these things to happen to someone else and sometimes the best way you can channel your grief is by enabling and ensuring that other people don't have to ever experience it. that's what i've done. that's what my son is doing and i believe that's what the

students are duoing as well. >> what's next for you? >> sandy hook promise, we'll continue doing what we do. we teach people to know the signs of risk behavior. trained over 3.5 million people in the last three years. we'll keep doing that because we know prevention is part of the solution and urge common sense legislation because we know mental health is part of what congress is looking at. we'll keep doing the exact same thing because we know we'll have an impact saving lives and we'll do whatever we can to help parkland and the students. >> it's good to see you. thank you for your time. >> thank you. the perils of the president's impulses. can he be trusted to keep the country safe and sound? a republican lawmaker will share his concerns next. ♪

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>> a couple of students there sending a powerful message to lawmakers and their fight to end gun violence. joining me congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania. good morning to you. i'm curious to your reaction to what you heard from those two students there? >> well, clearly, congress needs to act. we need to act on some firearm measures, common sense firearm measures, like universe am background checks that senators toomey and manchin have introduced, change the age to purchase high-powered rifles to 21. the bump stock, banning the bump stock. those are a few things with he can do. we just took care of the fix knick bill in the omnibus. there are some things we should be doing. clearly, the cycle of school shootings is well beyond alarming and we have to take reaction. >> i'll get to constituents and

how they feel about this, but to quote emma gonzalez, one of the leaders from parkland, these kids, these two we just listened to are calling bs. they're saying there are lawmakers out there who have basically been bought and paid for by the nra. is that acknowledged in the halls of congress, the people get from nra and they must hold positions adhering to what they want? >> i believe that many people are misreading the power and influence of gun rights groups like the nra. i've often said the nra's power is not money. its their members. they have large amounts of members who are very active politically and quite vocal all across the country. i think that is really their power. i've said it's much less about the money. i would argue they're probably not the biggest financial players by far in the political system, but they have members,

they communicate with their members effectively and their members communicate with members of congress.strength. >> so, to that end, you've been back and forth to pennsylvania a number of times since the parkland shooting. what are your constituents telling you about this? >> a lot of my constituents, i support the second amendment, the right of an individual to own firearms. the supreme court has affirmed that right. they also acknowledge we must have common sense measures in place. i simply think a universal background check is reasonable. and pennsylvania, we're a pretty pro second amendment state. we have background checks for private sales of pistols. toomey and manchin say, let's include that for all rifles. banning the bump stock used in las vegas that converted functionally a semi-automatic to an automatic weapon should be banned. i think we should all agree that that can happen.

there are many other things we can do, too, that would be useful. the 21-year-old age. if you can't buy ate pistol until you're 21, why is it a hardship to extend that to certain long guns that have high-capacity and high s that my constituents are saying, take care of those types of issues and deal with some of these mental health issues, particularly the red flag issue, which may be the most serious of all of family members knowing they have a loved one who is unstable and may have access to firearms and provide for a mechanism to have that firearm removed from that individual, then there would be due process, obviously. people want that to happen. they don't want guns banned but they certainly want reasonable restrictions. >> in the spirit of common sense, which you've just articulated, even the most basic, background checks, what are the arguments you hear on capitol hill for not allowing background checks? i mean, is there any common

sense to anybody who opposes that? >> the argument i hear generally is a slippery slope. the camel's nose is under the tent. i don't accept that on this issue. i believe most members of congress should be able to distinguish between a common sense measure to help provide some measure of public safety versus, you know, a complete ban on firearms or confiscation. we can do that. when i was in the pennsylvania legislature in the early '90s, i remember, we -- when we passed background checks then, tom ridge was governor, we had the nra gun rights groups, gun control groups, law enforcement sit in the room and we agreed to the background check proposal on private sales of pistols. we couldn't do that today. but we did that back in the '90s. nobody complains about it in pennsylvania. we are a pretty gun state,

pretty second amendment state. >> i don't understand the slippery slope you talk about with background checks. let's look at the analogy of driving a car, could we? someone could get killed with a car that goes out of control just as with a gun that's used in an out of control manner. when you get a driver's license, you have to take a written test, you have to understand the rules, the regulations, you have to take a driving test so you understand how to implement those rules and regulations. how is that different than a simple background check for somebody trying to purchase a gun? >> well, first, let me say driving is a privilege, not a right. firearms, you know, is more a right. i would also tell you, it's not an absolute right. one of the challenges on this issue of firearms, we have a lot of folks who have taken an absolutist position. that any restriction is too much of a restriction. i don't buy that. we banned automatic weapons back in the 1930s, for example. we do have background checks

currently in the law but only for licensed dealers. not necessarily for private sales. so, we have some restrictions. currently on the books that are reasonable. and we can add a few more. i would say to my colleagues, this is -- we're not going to end up with the situation of gun confiscation or bans of certain weapons that are -- firearms that are legal. >> i hope your fellow lawmakers listening to you right now, charlie dent. i want to go back to the activity out of the white house this past week that ended with the president threatening to veto the spending bill which you and your colleague passed through congress. you told the associated press, the spontaneity and lack of impulse control are areas of concern for members on both sides of the aisle. disorder, chaos, instability, uncertainty, are not virtues in my opinion. is there something you think the

president will do with his impulsive nature if he gets pushed to the edge that draws great concern for you? >> i don't know what he'll do in the future in terms of impulsive actions. you mivenyou mentioned the veto threat on the omnibus bill which we negotiated with his people. i oversaw the military construction va piece of the omnibus. we worked closely with the administration on this. the fact they supported it and then the president tweets out he might veto it, it's an impulsive action that was very concerning, to say the least. i'm glad the president signed the bill or impulsively agreeing to a meeting with kim jong-un. maybe that should have been deliberated on a bit more. or the firing of rex tillerson

and mcmaster, there's not enough deliberation and process that seems to be concerning. the presidential tweet drives so many decisions. and it blindsides not just members of congress and the public, but his own staff. that's what i'm very concerned about. >> representative charlie dent, always welcome on this broadcast. thank you so much. coming up next, the combative style of incoming national security john bolton. why he could convince the president to unleash the military on north korea and iran. we want to remind you to catch "hope & fury" tonight on msnbc.

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some new questions this morning following the latest white house shakeup and the hiring of john bolton. joining me now are chris whipple, author of "the gatekeepers" and gentleman mija. he also served in the bush administration as associate counsel to the president and national security expert. so, with a good morning to you both, auto im -- john bolton has spoken out about the nuclear deal, he still supports the iraq war, which some have called the worst foreign policy ever. i know you didn't personally

work with him, but i explained you worked with president bush. so, how concerned are you that he might nudge this president into military conflict? >> i think the president has to have military options available to him if he's going to get good deals. you always have to have that threat of military action to back your negotiation position. john bolton having called for pre-emptive strikes against north korea allows the president to get a better deal on the nuclear deal, which is a terrible deal, and better deal on iran, which we've had a bipartisan 25-year policy that doesn't work. they have nuclear weapons that can reach the united states and we have to -- >> how do you think bolton will expect the coming meeting in may, if it stays on schedule with kim jong-un? >> i think he'll put strength behind the. the. knowing he's in there and pompeo as secretary of state that the president has backing of people

prepared to take action. that will make the north koreans much more likely to work with the u.s. and give in and make a better deal. what we've had for a long time is the inability to threaten sort of military action. now we have guys who are very aggressive on that front, it will empower the president to do what he does best, which is make a good deal. >> i mean, what if someone actually blinks first on this? does this put us closer to war? >> no doubt when you get more aggressive, tougher, you get close to war. but that being said we're in an unacceptable situation. the north korea's nuclear weapons can reach the u.s. we've got to deal with that. we are close to war not because of anything we've done but because of what north korea is doing. >> chris, let's look at what "the post" reports is phase two of mr. trump's presidency could be even more tumultuous. supporters argue, this is why he was elected.

so, why is this viewed as a negative? >> the notion that we would somehow all be better off with donald trump unleashed, unchained is one of the worst notions i've heard since he took office. you can't run the white house without a chief of staff. every president who tried that has found out the hard way. beyond that, when i talk to reince priebus for the new chapter of my paperback, the first thing he told me is take everything you've heard and multiply it by 50. the reality is that it is 50 times more chaotic and dysfunctional on the inside than it looks from the outside. and for every crazy policy like the executive order on immigration that was blocked in the courts, you remember that

way back when, priebus says there are ten other crazy ideas he helped to stop. every president needs -- every president needs a white house chief of staff who can tell him hard truths. >> if what priebus is saying, chris, do you tip your hat to priebus and kelly, despite the criticism, which is warranted from your perspective, if literally things are 50 times worse than what we're getting wind of? think about the uphill battle they have in their job every single day. >> it's the definition of an uphill -- straight uphill battle. the learning curve for donald trump was to learn was straight up. this is someone with no governmental experience. the total outsider president who had no idea what he was doing. still has no idea how to govern. that's where i've been most critical about -- with john kell kelly in particular. most presidents get into office,

they think they're the smartest guy in the room, they get over it. they figure out there's a difference between governing and campaigning. donald trump has still not learned that. kelly has not helped him to do that. that's the biggest problem, in my view, with kelly's tenure. >> back to bolton, during a senate arms services hearing secretary mattis said keeping the iran deal was in the country's national security interest. if general mattis is in favor of keeping the iran deal and bolton is ultimately against it, who wins? >> that's a great question. we had secretary tillerson and h.r. mcmaster in favor of keeping the iran deal. the president during the campaign made clear he did not like the iran deal. he planned to get rid of it. he's been frustrated with having to keep the deal his advisers are telling him to. now he has pompeo and john bolton saying, no, get rid of that deal. they're right. it's a disastrous deal. iran continues to support terrorism, continues to build ballistic missiles.

they don't tell the truth and we should end the iran deal sooner rather than later. >> i've been talking to former republican chiefs of staff and john bolton is a person with a dangerously diluted view of how the real world works. he thinks you can bomb countries into submission. he's the worst choice, with the exception of michael flynn, to be national security adviser. is that person has to be honest broker, making sure every decision is teed up with information on every side. he's the farthest thing from an honest broker. he's a guy who puts his thumb on the scale. beyond that, you've got a white house now with kelly and you've got the defense secretary mattis, who opposed his appointment, reportedly. that sounds like a recipe for more dissdpuysfunction and chao >> i want to thank you. wish you a happy birthday and hope you get into discourse that doesn't involve any of this for

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now to the controversy surrounding stormy daniels. a new report says the story is turned into a large-scale presidential crisis. the white house says the issue has been addressed. the report suggests they have ramped up a legal effort to fight it. in the lead-up to her interview tonight, her lawyer says if they are upset about what happened over the last two weeks, they will be really upset over what will transpire over the next few months. good morning. i should begin here by saying trump's team repeatedly denied allegations of any affair. we have heard from stormy daniels and her lawyer about their claims. is there anything more that she can say tonight that would change things? >> gosh, i think the stormy

mcdaniels and mcdougal coming out and who said what and who is lying. one suit is defamation of character due to his denials. the bigger issue at hand has to do with how the money and what transpired impacted federal election law. i think that's where they are trying to hit him and where i think it could make an impact. at this point, the narrative is so big. no one -- i don't think there's question of whether the affairs happened or not. the bigger question is, were they paid off to impact the election? >> what about the wall street journal, which is reporting that privately the president has discussed with advisors whether he should pup likely fig public allegations. what do you think his best move is? would a public response be riskier than staying silent? >> i hope he stays silent on twitter as it regards to the interview with stormy daniels. the thing of it with trump, trump -- if he feels

passionately that he has been wronged or something is false or what she is saying he really adamantly disagrees with, you know good and well he will take to twitter and he will not take anyone's advice and he will tweet -- this is how he reaches his base. he also -- everything he feels he will put on twitter. if he feels passionate about the interview, you might see him take to twitter. >> what do you think the end game is for stormy daniels? what's motivating her right now? >> i think there's a lot of women, especially in the me too movement, that just want truth heard. they want to be acknowledged for what happened. i think the denial of victims, of people not listening to victims, and in this case, they were complicit. it wasn't like they were victims in that sense. i think they realize that the payoff they have gotten is silencing them. being silenced is a hard thing. honestly, there's also an opportunity for these women to make money with their stories. right now, they are clamped down

with a small paycheck that they see could be bigger. >> i want to get, noel, your take on the potential affects on all of this. there are more than just -- there's another one accusing mr. trump of sexual misconduct before the 2016 election. what do you think the effect of this has had on the president? >> you know, i don't think much. he has his hands full with a lot of issues that are very important. meaning, we have north korea. we have the russian meddling. we have issues at hand that keep the president pretty busy. i think that these things -- i'm sure they're in the background. but i don't think he is worried about what's going on with stormy daniels. i think in the white house he is faced with bigger problems. >> do you want to give a headline potential for tomorrow? >> i do not. >> is this real? >> do you want to take a stab? >> is this really what we are

talking about? it's interesting when you look at the comparison between the clinton days and today and people's tolerance and appetite for this conversation around the president. it's a new day, i guess. >> it is. i don't know what it says about society. that's another conversation. good to see you both. thank you. ahead on, the tough talk us by stormy daniels' attorney. bol with my grandkids 'cause of the burning, shooting pain in my feet. i hear you, sam. cedric, i couldn't sleep at night because of my diabetic nerve pain. i hear you, claire, because my dad struggled with this pain. folks, don't wait. step on up and talk to your doctor. because the one thing i keep hearing is... i'm glad i stepped on up. me too, buddy. if you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain in your feet or hands, step on up and talk to your doctor today. step on up cohigher!ad!

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